OOC DISCUSSION MEME;

[theearth]

Save the Earth requires a good deal of thought to apply into. Because of this, it can't hurt to get some input into your ideas or to get some idea of how other players will feel about them.

This post is exactly for that. Think of it as a creativity workshop where there are no stupid questions, bad ideas can get weeded out and good ones can get fed properly. However, this space is for constructive criticism only. Please remain mindful of that.

How it Works:

Put forward your idea for a character you wish to apply. Point out the parts you like most, the holes you want help with, the parts where you can't seem to make up your mind either way. Consider what sort of goals you'd like to achieve in the game, why you think the character is a good fit and what sort of roles they'll be able to fulfil. Don't be afraid to let it all If you have an app in progress, you might want to link to it. Similarly, linking to a resource to let others know the preincarnated character better might be a good idea.

Then, discuss with others! Hopefully you'll be able to make your vision more complete and understand the game better. Potentially you could formulate future CR or even pre-game CR.

Comments

[strongestcoward]

Asura of Soul Eater, is the Demon God of Madness, who exudes a power to drive the entire world into insanity. He is the living embodiment of terror, and is appropriately enough both scared of everything and absolutely terrifying himself. He has mood swings between being a total freaking out freak and being a suave, calm philosopher. Very pro freedom and considers all forms of order to be tyranny, so he'd rather destroy all types of structure and rules from the world... And if people keep finding his hiding places, he'd like to blow up the world. Absolutely bug nuts and kind of an idiot. Also very pretty! Until he does this.

Now, since we already have a fair few villainous characters (and I'm playing Shendu for lords sake) but what I want to do is have him be the kindest, sweetest, shyest guy you can imagine in his reincarnation and kind of a tragic little man who would probably never have any friends or even leave the house if it wasn't for this whole crisis. Possibly one who, thanks to getting a spattering of very effective powers as his early Echoes, kind of has to get into danger for the sake of others. I really like the degree to which he would really be struggling to try and pretend to be a hero, actually being a coward and slowly developing into an absolute monster with apocalyptic desires. And if he has himself some real friends by that point, getting afraid of receiving more Echoes.

A bit of a concern of mine is that, as a shy and cowardly as he would be he'd need people to prod and coddle him now and then. I can imagine it'd be a bit of a pain for others.

H O W E V E R I am currently caught between that idea and having him already be evil. Specifically, an as yet uncaught serial killer. Instead of being the sweet guy who really shouldn't have to do this sort of stuff, he'd be a natural at it the messy side and probably it'd be really unnerving to know him. I kind of like the idea of him being sort of barely tolerated by most people because no one likes Asura. Especially those law and order types we have around. Problem with that is... well, no one would want him around ICly. I might try to balance it out by having him basically be his cool persona without any of the terror and attempt to make him be weirdly charismatic for it.

I dunno. Thoughts? Hit me.

[seriallylucky]

Naturally, me being me, options for a second app started running through my head the moment Felix's hit the post. Some of these are:

Sazed, from Mistborn. He's fascinated me ever since I first read the books, and I desperately want an opportunity to play with the Metallic Arts somewhere. Problem is, I don't quite have his voice nailed down yet, and I don't have a PB. I'm told other people have found fixing the latter to help with the former, but thus far I've had little luck. There's very little canonical description of Saze (or, indeed, of most of the characters) - he's tall and stretched out, with a long flat face. He's also got a shaved head and ears that are stretched out for lots of earrings, but those would possibly not be so essential for starting out in StE. I've got some tentative thoughts about reincarnating him as part Indian, though I'm not hugely attached to that. Mostly I just want an excuse for his parents to have had distinctly different religions.

Applejack, from My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. The problem here is, I'd want to have her reincarnated as a pony. But I don't know horses. I could probably scrounge an Echo somewhere to rearrange her biology into I-can-hoofwave-stuff territory, but I doubt her owners would fail to notice this. She could possibly escape at about the same time, but I doubt a horse wandering around trying to avoid humans is going to have much opportunity to get Echoes.

Fluttershy, from the same canon, I could do more easily - I see no problem with starting her as a human, and I've been playing her elsewhere for a bit under two years now. But... I'm not entirely sure that a Fluttershy would be an excellent fit for StE. Also I kind of despair at the thought of trying to write a history section where literally any mention of family would have to be marked as headcanon.

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[northless]

AHEM HI. Effy here, resident player of Robb Stark, and I am thinking about bringing in two characters! (Sorry, Harry. Maybe next year?)

Grantaire is from Les Miserables, aka that book/musical/movie where everyone you love DIES ON THE BARRICADES or FALLS OFF A BRIDGE INTO THE SEINE or DIES OF HEARTBREAK. Basically everyone dies and Grantaire (aka R, because his name sounds like "Grand R") here is no exception. For those who haven't read the book (which I can understand because holy shit that thing has more pages than LOTR), he is one of Les Amis de l'ABC (the Friends of the ABCs, "ABC" sounding a lot like "abased" which is French for "oppressed", Hugo loved his puns yes), which is a group of student revolutionaries, but unlike the rest of Les Amis, Grantaire's a cynic. He's just there to get drunk and snark at everyone, and also because Enjolras is like the one thing he believes in. They're even compared to Orestes and Pylades at one point. Dammit, Hugo.

Anyway, I actually have two ideas for his reincarnated self, aka Renaud Brewer. The first is for him to be a somewhat less cynical college student who participates in rallies and stuff because he actually believes in them, not just because of Enjolras, and he can totally control his drinking yep. Network events and echoes, however, would basically break what little idealism he's managed to build up. And then he'd turn to drinking all over again, except this time it's worse.

The second is for him to be a cynical college drop-out. Which is pretty close to canon, welp, but I think he'd be even more cynical about things because, again, there's no one around for him to believe in. And then the echoes would push him in the other direction, because even now he still believes in Enjolras, even if he doesn't quite know who the guy is. (He will still be a drunk, though.)

Two concerns of mine is that, welp, Hugo didn't even give him a first name. And idk how the mods would feel about me headcanoning his life prior to the June Rebellion of 1832 because of course Hugo didn't give us anything more than hints about that. The other is that I'm sort of planning to give him the French language as his first echo, triggered by somebody calling him R. He wouldn't know what to do with it other than ace high school French, but is it still okay?

[thepiisatruth]

This is Blue, here - and for the future, I'm strongly considering balancing the goody-goody Anthony and the classy Rarity with the troublemaking maniac Sho Minamimoto from The World Ends With You.

I've so-to-speak drawn up a reincarnated persona for him also - in all likelihood a smart-as-a-whip but underachieving delinquent high school senior who enjoys stealing garbage, Dadaism, and doing math for fun, and lives with his father who runs a ramen shop thanks to the Another Day omake. I'm unsure how loopy he ought to start out and how much worse he'll get as he regains Echoes (for example, would he start out with his trademark math-speak - would it have been a thing that even in canon he started doing while he was alive for the sake of sheer zetta swag, or after he became a Reaper and would've gotten increadingly power-hungry and bombastic?), but that's a minor thing.

One thing that is holding me back on him is the nature of his powers - they don't do much in the physical world, though the ability of flight would be useful. Even Noise, which are dangerous on the Underground/spirit plane only affect the not-undead as "bad energy".

I've also picked up a muse for Buttercup from The Powerpuff Girls, which unlike Sho would also be doing another small part for the reincarnation gender representation - but on the other hand, her powers are out of control, and before she gets them, people already fussed about Toshiro - surely they'll refuse to let a petite elementary schoolgirl get into things.

Finally, I also considered Zevran Arainai from Dragon Age, but I have never played him before and his character type is certainly a quick far step out of my comfort zone. And also, again, it's raining men. I've also wanted to play Leliana in the past, but ha ha I've already got Anthony and Rarity.

Any thoughts or help would be appreciated!

[elfstoned]

This is Krystal, and for my second character, I'm torn between two options.

One is Loki, from the Eddas/myths. Would have his reincarnation be a woman of about 25 who desperately wants to be famous. What for, she's not sure, but she knows she wants to be a STAR. Unfortunately, she has no potential, and only mediocre talent. At anything. She works as a stagehand at Locke City's big movie studio because if she can't be in the movies yet she can at least be in the business, right?

She has no patience to be a writer, no dedication to train her voice to be a singer, no talent for delivering lines, and terrible luck.

I'm not sure where her echoes/development would take her yet. I'd wait and see in-game. But I do know that she has the potential to be very dangerous -- if she realizes that she'll never be famous legitimately, she will settle for infamy, and would become a high-profile murderer or possibly a terrorist. Because at least then people would know her name, right?

Thoughts? I need to work on incorporating what her memories of the myths will do to her, because her initial thoughts will be "god dammit I don't want to go crazy / who cares about Norse mythology." But it'll definitely add to her drive to make herself known, and she'll become more and more willing to do underhanded things to get what she wants.

Also flying shoes.

Second option is Kay Curtis, an OC. In his canon he's a brash, loud, violent teenage werewolf with a couple of murders under his belt. He's his own worst enemy, a huge mess of instincts and conflicting desires and pride and addiction and a need for friends. Here, I'd make him a comparatively well-adjusted coder/hacker who has a problem with escaping into video games, quiet but still proud and competitive, the kind of guy whose anger burns cold and will get you back a week later. Viciously. But if you make friends with him/ping him as someone to protect, he'll go to the ends of the earth for you.

Basically his development would be

"suddenly I have an explosive temper??"

"suddenly I'm ripped??"

"suddenly I want to kiss everyone???"

"WHY DID I PUNCH THAT GUY THAT WAS DUMB"

"aaaaaaugh"




Thoughts? Got a preference re: which character you'd rather see?

[entheogen]

...so Anghel is kind of perfect for this game. He's a weirdly intense bird who believes he's the reincarnation of a fallen angel, and he maybe kind of is. Spends a lot of time and energy holding back the "fallen" bit and fleeing when he thinks it could get loose, gets other characters to remember their past lives in relation to him.

Or maybe he's not. He puts out hallucinogenic pheromones and is arguably schizophrenic. This past life is basically an intentional parody of a young teen's Mary Sue stage, all flash and things that resonate when you're that age and seem absurd when you're older.

But maybe it doesn't matter, since he's a belief-based reality warper and can intuit things about souls and the future, and has a very skewed but ultimately accurate view of events. Maybe he might as well be a fallen angel - maybe he's the reincarnation of something, and with his powers perceives and handles it through the lens of a teenager with a Mary Sue version of himself.

Just trying to work out how I'd handle him.

[relentless_sentinel]

Why hi, folks! I'm Dassa, and looking to apply here, and planning on bringing in Nephenee from the Fire Emblem franchise. Here's her wiki page for those unfamiliar: http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Nephenee

I'm a little unsure what to do with her, though. I've played an AU for her before, with her as a spoiled rich girl instead of a very shy, poor farm girl, but I'm...rather unsure if I can pull that off for an extended time, as it's pretty much the opposite of me and I can't help wondering if it would burn me out :/ This is the first time I've made a dedicated AU, so I'm uncertain how to start.

Any help is appreciated, and thank you in advance!

[dorkytracksuit]

So. I have been thinking for a while that I want to app toothless from HTTYD. Also tempted to app Duck from Princess Tutu. Would anyone mind more animal based characters?

[formermagicalgirl]

So I keep getting this thought to bring two older muses of mine over to this game. Maybe some of you guys can help out with some of the roadblocks I run into with these two. Both are female, so it would help with the gender diversity. I'd only app one of these two because they are a bit too similar overall.

First one is Erim from the Lufia series. She's overall got two major roadblocks in playing her. One is what version of her to play since she pretty much ends up reincarnated multiple times in canon. Yeah, real fun. Then there is the fact that the DS remake completely threw a wrench into things and changed up the canon entirely so Fortress of Doom is likely to never happen. So overall if I go with her I can run with one of the following personalities:
-The mysterious oracle Iris, probably would run with her being in her 20s and is a fortuneteller of some sort, or could also have a new age shop.
-The girl, Lufia, if I ran with this, she'd be in middle school and overall a pretty normal girl, but this version of her woke up with no memories of who she was so the amnesia would be a bit odd to work with.
-Helpful priestess Iris, if I went this route she'd also be around 20s, maybe a counselor or therapist of some sort

While there is a version of her in the third game, I prefer to avoid that version. And for those not canon familiar, Erim is basically a goddess of death and one of the antagonists of the canon, but in every version she helps the party in some manner and basically leads the destined human to fighting with the others. If said human wins her comrades disappear and return many years later. If said human loses, the world is destroyed and rebuilt anew.

And then the other issue I run into with her is icons. Lufia is a very very old canon so the art is pretty limited and there isn't a whole lot of fanart. What little exists is either very bad or just all over the place in appearance for Erim. So I'd likely be best off running with a PB and just downright fail with finding one.

Second character is Tia from Ys Seven. She's also an antagonist, not that you know this until over halfway through the game. She's a being that exists solely to ensure the world remains in balance by showing up when the balance is tipping and eventually performing the Rite of Demise. Said Rite kills all living things and takes their souls to be reborn anew into a new world so the balance is restored.

Until she goes to perform the rite, she's a poor flower seller who travels to the other villages to give the people medicines. Such a guise allows her to mostly go unnoticed, but also to see the world. If I opted to play her, she'd probably be in her 20s and run a shop that sells herbs and new age stuff that was left to her by her parents. That could be useful potentially. Like Erim though, she's a bit lacking in icon material, though not as bad since Ys Seven has a tolerable amount of fanart, she's just the female who gets the least and its lacking in a range of expressions.

[professorwolf]

I'm halfway through my app for a wizard kitten from Diane Duane's books The Book of Night with Moon and To Visit the Queen. Since I'm playing him starting off as a cat (obviously), I'm pretty sure I want him to have an owner, so that he'll be better socialized than the alley cat he is in canon, plus that'll give him access to computers/phones/paper/etc to get on the network.

I could make this human an NPC. But I thought I'd offer first: does anybody want a five month old kitten for their character? They'd have to have owned him for about two months, so a newer character or one who hasn't mentioned pets much would probably be best? I'd also prefer a positive relationship between him and his human, but I'm flexible on that :)

Any takers?

mild spoilers for Toward the Terra!

[child_soldier]

So...I've never really done this AU thing before, but I was thinking Tony here from Toward the Terra might be really interesting in a setting like this!

In a nutshell, his canon is focused around a society that exists in colonized worlds and space stations after having to abandon Earth due to pollution and war making it unlivable. They've installed a computer-run system that keeps them firmly in check so they can't do more damage while they wait for Earth (Terra) to be terraformed so they can return. A group of people called the Mu with genetic mutations that cause them to be varying levels of telepathic/telekinetic/etc. but with weaker yet long-lived bodies start to be born and are hunted down and systematically destroyed by the people controlled by the computer system. The series plot involves the struggle of the Mu to survive and find their way home to Terra, which they desperately long for.

Tony is one of the few naturally-born children in existence, and an extremely powerful Mu, and is essentially a child who went through self-imposed accelerated growth/maturation by necessity. He's a soldier who does terrible things for the good of the Mu despite being considered a monster for it, and while he has no personal concern regarding Terra either way, he wants to find it because his people, who he loves, all want to find it. Throughout his life, he's lost multiple people he loves, including both parents, and is extremely attached to Jomy, leader of the Mu and whom he calls "grandpa" due to his powerful bond with Tony's mother when she was a child.

I was thinking of making his AU history be that of a child orphaned when he was quite young, raised by a grandfather on a sort of hippie co-op commune just outside the city. It would be a relatively peaceful place that is full of well-meaning but emotionally high-strung people convinced they're being oppressed by the outside world for their simple, peaceful way of life. They'd do farming and stuff, and I imagine Tony would be the slightly rebellious angry kid who gets sent into town for supplies a lot and doesn't know if he wants to leave the commune or stay, because he dislikes outsiders and loves his grandfather, but at the same time is having a nasty generational clash with the older people in the commune.

I'm mostly just torn on whether this is plausible, or if I should change it around to something more different from his canon upbringing...he'll have a lot of powers and other memories of a completely different world to have for Echoes, but I'm not sure if the lack of major personality changes (besides his bloodlust) would be boring to people I'm playing with or not!

Any feedback is much appreciated, I kind of came up with this over the course of today and am not sure whether it's preposterous or not!

[minkhollow]

Hi! I'm an outlander (followed a link in from Felix's mun) and still weighing whether I want to join in/if I can remember a second game well enough to actually play it, so I'm sticking to my own journal for now. But the concept's actually caught my eye for the first time in ages, so I thought I'd at least bounce this around.

If I were to join in, it'd be with Rebecca St. Clair from Warehouse 13. It's the show of my heart, I essentially want to be Rebecca when I grow up, and I'm relatively sure she won't be getting any more canon at this point. I also really, really want to play me an awesome '50s!Warehouse agent somewhere.

Pros: I hear y'all need some more ladies about the place. I already have a few reincarnation-AU ideas (not least because childhood in the 1980s would be rather different than childhood in the '30s). Once she remembered it, she could be quite the badass; it's canon that she's a damn good shot, and she has many many points in investigating things (and keeping her head in a crisis).

Cons: She may be a badass, but she's still a baseline human. (A baseline human who would eventually have a Tesla, yes, but... baseline human.) She's also making a lot of faces indeed at the prospect of ending up in any game without Jack to go with her; I don't suppose I could tempt anyone into apping him? I can bribe with icons!

Neutral points: Minor character means a fair amount of headcanon, but I've thought a lot of that up already (I just have these feels okay). While I do already have a journal for her, I would probably make another one for this game, and I have no idea what I would call it. I've also gathered there are a lot of teachers already, and I'd probably carry over that aspect of Rebecca's character; on the other hand, she's definitely more early-childhood than college-level.
Also I can't for the life of me figure out what the first Echo would be. Tesla? (Probably not.) Knowing how to shoot a gun pretty damn effectively, despite never having done in this life? Jack's ring, minus the engraving for a while?

[diamondlight]

I observe there aren't any new comments here in the last two weeks, but I'll try anyway. I'm looking to app this character here, Rikka Hishikawa from Dokidoki Precure. Her canon involves middle-school girls called up to become magical girls that save the world.

Rikka's AU is Winter Adamas, a high-school girl that has a disdain for her parents and the start of her own organization of underlings. I... am admittedly bad at summarizing, so just have a link.

I'm not sure what I need to tighten up on her app... but it still feels off. I'm reviewing the game materials, but I would love someone to make sure I'm not overstepping, and help me make sure this... makes sense, I guess? I'm sorry, I have no idea how to ask, but I want to make sure I'd doing this right.

[doomedtheworld]

Not sure how often this thread is checked but what the hell, I could use some input.

So I'm considering apping this character here: Vin, from Brandon Sanderson's fantasy-heist novel Mistborn. For those not familiar she's essentially a street urchin thief who ended up being a rebel hero with superpowers.

The idea I'm working with for her reincarnated personality is a kid who grew up in foster care and maybe ended up as a runaway, living on the streets, probably drifting from place to place for a while. I am a little hesitant about doing that though, since I don't know if the idea has been done before and even if it's pretty close to her canon backstory I know characters like that tend to set off an alarm or two in some people's heads.

The bigger stumbling block, however, is her abilities which there are quite a lot of and are pretty complicated. The gist of it is that she has the power of Allomancy, which involves swallowing certain metals and "burning" them to use as fuel for superhuman powers. For instance, burning one metal will give her super strength, another one will give her super senses and so on. I've written up a more detailed explanation here.

The problem I'm trying to get around is how to regain these powers through Echoes. I was thinking the best way might be to have an earlier one (maybe her first) being the memory of Allomancy and how to actually use it with later Echoes returning the ability to use the specific metals one at a time. The other problem is where to get the metals to use at all so I was also wondering if there was a way in game to deal with that or maybe a character that could ICly help her out.

Any input either to how her background or powers would work, or anything else, would be awesome. Thanks.